What Will The US Open Winning Score Be? We Spoke To A Caddie Who Knows Oakmont Better Than Most…

The 125th US Open at Oakmont will be a tough affair and, ahead of the third men's Major of the season, we spoke to veteran caddie, Kenny Harms, about his experiences of the course

Kenny Harms and Kevin Na talk over a golf shot. A general view of Oakmont Country Club
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In the build-up to the US Open, many have spoken about how tough Oakmont Country Club could play.

Notoriously, the course is dubbed one of, if not, the toughest on the US Open rota and, prior to the start, many have reported how much the rough is up and how quick the greens are.

A general view of Oakmont Country Club in 2025

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For 2025, Oakmont Country Club will host its 10th US Open and its first since 2016.

That week, a mixed leaderboard was in play and, among the top 10 was Kevin Na, who finished solo seventh.

Ahead of the tournament, we spoke to Na's former caddie, Kenny Harms, to find out more about one of his "favorite" golf courses.

Speaking to Golf Monthly, the veteran caddie stated: "Personally, I think it's one of the top five golf courses in the world. It's right there with Royal County Down, or Royal Portrush, or Cypress Point.

"Oakmont's got everything. There's no water hazards, there's some little ditches that go down the side, but there's not a pond on the whole site. You can't pretend around that golf course.

"I think it's the toughest. It's either that or you get an Open Championship where it's 40-50 mph winds. Oakmont's a different animal. Especially if it plays hard and fast."

Kenny Harms and Kevin Na walk down the fairway

Harms and Na during the 2016 US Open

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Like any Major championship, the weather plays a huge part and, prior to the event getting underway on Thursday, rain at Oakmont Country Club means the rough will be juicier, but the greens will be slower.

Back in 2016, rain throughout Thursday meant the course softened up, but it was the actions of the USGA on Tuesday morning that left Harms questioning some decisions.

"I have some really good friends that are members there (Oakmont), so I play there a lot and know the golf course well," explained Harms.

"We actually got on there on the Saturday and, when we were playing the third hole, (...) comes up and he goes 'man, this place is perfect. Not even the USGA can **** this one up, right?'

"I'm like, 'it's Saturday. You wait until Tuesday or Wednesday.' He goes, 'What do you mean?' I go, 'there's no way they're going to play this golf course like it's playing.' The members play it harder than they do.

"In 2016, the golf course was perfect. Nobody was breaking par. That's how hard it was playing when we got there. The greens were around 16 on the stimpmeter, the rough was up.

"We got there on Tuesday and they started cutting the rough down and they started watering the fairways and the greens. I was asked by Frank Nobilo 'what do you think is going to win?' I'm like 'six or seven under.' He's like, 'what are you talking about?' I'm like, 'they're putting water on the golf course. There's a huge storm coming on Thursday. They don't have the machines to suck all the moisture out of the greens.

Fans hold up umbrellas at the US Open

Play was delayed on the first day of the 2016 US Open due to heavy rainfall

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"I don't think this year they're going to do that. The problem is they're calling for rain. If the golf course gets soft, these guys... the distance doesn't matter. Look at the PGA (Championship) scores. What happened there? They got a lot of rain and 11-under won.

"They hit the ball so far and the ball goes straight. If Oakmont isn't playing hard and fast, somebody's going to shoot five or six under there. I'm hoping that the golf course plays hard and fast because, if they play it hard and fast with that rough, five or six over will win."

Scottie Scheffler takes a shot at the Memorial Tournament

Scottie Scheffler fired an 11-under-par tournament total to win the PGA Championship by five strokes

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US Opens are notoriously the hardest tests in golf, with over-par scores previously winning the coveted title.

In 1974, Hale Irwin, who Harms used to caddie for, claimed his first of three US Opens with a seven-over-par score. In fact, the course set-up at Winged Foot was playing so tough that leading sportswriter, Dick Schaap coined the phrase 'The Massacre at Winged Foot.'

Following the early rain this year, Oakmont will likely not be as firm and fast as it could be but, with the greens and five-inch thick rough in play, it could well be a near level-par score that wins the event.

"It's going to be interesting. If they get the greens to 16 and they get it hard and fast, it's going to be fun to watch," stated Harms.

"You look back at the Massacre at Winged Foot when Hale won at seven-over-par. That's what this golf course could play like..."

Matt Cradock
Staff Writer

Matt joined Golf Monthly in February 2021 covering weekend news, before also transitioning to equipment and testing. After freelancing for Golf Monthly and The PGA for 18 months, he was offered a full-time position at the company in October 2022 and continues to cover news and social media.

Taking up the game when he was just seven years of age, Matt made it into his county squad just a year later and continues to play the game at a high standard, with a handicap of around 2-4. To date, his best round came in 2016, where he shot a six-under-par 66 having been seven-under through nine holes. His favorite player is Rory McIlroy, despite nearly being struck by his second shot at the 17th during the 2015 BMW PGA Championship.

Matt’s current What’s In The Bag?

Driver: Honma TW747, 8.75°

Fairway Wood: Ping G430 LST 15°, 19°

Irons: TaylorMade P.7CB

Wedges: Cleveland 588 RTX 2.0 Tour Satin, 50°, 56°, 60°

Putter: Cleveland TFI 2135 Satin Cero

Ball: Titleist Pro V1

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